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 Ichneumon or Sawfly?
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| Larry Shone |
Posted on 08-10-2011 22:39
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 Member Location: Darlington UK Posts: 187 Joined: 08.05.10 |
I caught one of these in my house the other day, thinking it was a Crane fly but it stung me. It sdidnt burn like a wasp sting , I just wasnt expecting it. Today we found another and this time I was prepared and I got two photos.  |
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| Larry Shone |
Posted on 09-10-2011 10:53
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Member Location: Darlington UK Posts: 187 Joined: 08.05.10 |
Hmmm, Netelia testacea? |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 09-10-2011 12:36
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What a strange species!! 
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 09-10-2011 18:22
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Professor Donald Quicke says that it is Ophion obscuratus 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Larry Shone |
Posted on 11-10-2011 15:05
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Member Location: Darlington UK Posts: 187 Joined: 08.05.10 |
ChrisR wrote: Professor Donald Quicke says that it is Ophion obscuratus Hmm, not listed in my collins guide. Not Netelia ? |
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| blowave |
Posted on 11-10-2011 15:27
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 Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Larry Shone wrote: ChrisR wrote: Professor Donald Quicke says that it is Ophion obscuratus Hmm, not listed in my collins guide. Not Netelia ? Given the credentials of the person mentioned, I would go with what he said. http://www3.imper...e/d.quicke Janet
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 11-10-2011 16:38
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
@Larry - you have to be very wary of the Collin's Guides. They are nice books but there are 7000+ species of Hymenoptera in the UK and the Collins books probably cover no more than 1% of them. That's aside from the fact that a vast majority of the species belong to complex morphological groupings ... basically they all look the same as a bunch of other species. Jim Brock's keys list 14 species of the genus Ophion in the UK ... so you see the problem. In my experience they are not an easy group to identify either - requiring close examination of a lot of features to get an ID. 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Larry Shone |
Posted on 11-10-2011 16:47
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Member Location: Darlington UK Posts: 187 Joined: 08.05.10 |
Ophion it is then |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 11-10-2011 18:25
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Without problem for me : Ophion obscuratus! But not more than 4 sp.identifiable in photograph, yes CHRIS! Camille Edited by cthirion on 11-10-2011 18:26 cthirion |
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