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 Laphria spec., L. flava?
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| ChristianL |
Posted on 10-07-2011 12:44
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Member Location: Germany, Göttingen Posts: 58 Joined: 30.09.10 |
Hi together, is this large Asilidae a Laphria flava male? Location: Germany, Lower Saxony, Göttingen, Kerstlingeröder Feld, 300msm, on dead wood near forest edge, 05.07.11 ~20mm Thanks for help, Christian ChristianL attached the following image:  [97.7Kb] Edited by ChristianL on 10-07-2011 12:44 |
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| ChristianL |
Posted on 10-07-2011 12:45
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Member Location: Germany, Göttingen Posts: 58 Joined: 30.09.10 |
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| ChristianL |
Posted on 10-07-2011 12:45
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Member Location: Germany, Göttingen Posts: 58 Joined: 30.09.10 |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 11-07-2011 17:49
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2208 Joined: 18.05.10 |
I think this has to Laphria ephippium, male. I hope someone will confirm this.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| ChristianL |
Posted on 11-07-2011 22:49
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Member Location: Germany, Göttingen Posts: 58 Joined: 30.09.10 |
Hi Reinoud, thanks for your opinion. If no other expert contradict I'll take it as a Laphria ephippium, male  Cheers, Christian |
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| Dysmachus |
Posted on 19-07-2011 20:06
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 Member Location: Germany Posts: 321 Joined: 15.03.06 |
Sorry, I don't agree. This is really a dark coloured specimen of Laphria flava, especially the dark hair on the mesonotum. For comparison with L. ephippium please have a look http://www.robber...er004.html and the key http://www.robber...phria.html. All three images show yellow hair on the tergites, which are unknown in L. ephippium. Yours |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 20-07-2011 16:11
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2208 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Again very informative. Texts are clear "Tergites with dark brown to black hairs" but the picture of Geller-Grimm is not so clear. It looks to me that L ephippium has also reddish hairs on abdomen just less than L flava. L ephippium is not known from the Netherlands so i have no excperience with it. Although i have never seen such a dark L. flava yet. Probably have to see L. ephippium fresh and collected to gain experience.
Edited by Quaedfliegh on 20-07-2011 18:30 Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| ChristianL |
Posted on 20-07-2011 17:02
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Member Location: Germany, Göttingen Posts: 58 Joined: 30.09.10 |
Hi Dysmachus and Reinoud, thanks for your attempt to identify this Laphria and special thanks for the link to the key! I have checked the hairs on abdomen on the original pics and would agree with Dysmachus that there are yellow hairs, especially on the first tergites below the wings. Thus it is a Laphria flava. Cheers, Christian |
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