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Scatophaga?
Kirsten Eta
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Posted on 17-10-2006 20:31
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Hello dipterafriends,
I also have an not identified yellow fly. Two of them where sitting on and near a rotted banana hanging in a tree in my garden in Norderstedt, near Hamburg, Germany ( it was smelling intensiv sweet and unpleasant ). They where about 10 mm big and lazy.

I showed the fly on Insektenfotos.de but nobody was shure about the full name. Is it possible to get help here?

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Edited by Kirsten Eta on 17-10-2006 20:43
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Nikita Vikhrev
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Hi Kristen.
With yellow shoulders I'd say Scathophaga (suilla?).
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Kirsten Eta
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Hi Nikita, thank you very much for your answer. Why can't I get any information about this fly in the www? Would be very interesting to see any other pics, especially from the beautiful face. Do you have some?
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Nikita Vikhrev
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Hi Kristen,
really in Google image search there aren't Scathophaga suilla.
You can find some here on Diptera.info (keyword "suilla"Wink or on www.rosfoto.ru
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Kirsten Eta
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Posted on 18-10-2006 08:42
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Dear Nikita, thanks for your help. With your instructions I could found interesting articles here ( this eggs are fantastic ) and on J?rgens site ( insektenfotos.de ) I also could open something nice.

http://insektenfotos.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=3380

Only the russian site is not possible to read for me Sad, sorry and spasiba


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Kirsten Eta
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Posted on 18-10-2006 22:25
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Hi Nikita, with your help I could see now some more photos from S. suilla and I also think, that this is my fly. Do you think that I need a cf. between Scathophaga and suilla?

Thank you for all Grin
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Nikita Vikhrev
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Posted on 19-10-2006 21:54
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Kristen,
I would like to know answer myself.
I understood cf as:
There is, for example fly Xxx yyy, then one discovers that it is realy group of related species - Xxx yyy, X. yyy1, X. yyy2. In this case one of this group mya be labeled as cf Xxx yyy.
But according Diptera.info Glossary "cf" = "?"
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Juergen Peters
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Posted on 20-10-2006 02:37
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Hello, Nikita!

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
I understood cf as:
There is, for example fly Xxx yyy, then one discovers that it is realy group of related species - Xxx yyy, X. yyy1, X. yyy2. In this case one of this group mya be labeled as cf Xxx yyy.
But according Diptera.info Glossary "cf" = "?"


I understand a 'cf.' between genus and species name in that way, that the genus is not in doubt, but there are more than one possibilities for the species, the given name being the (one of the) most probable. It is just a bit more definite than a Genus sp., which means: any species of the given genus possible.
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Jürgen

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I go along with you, Juergen. Wink
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