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Colourful grasshopper
nick upton
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Posted on 27-01-2011 00:49
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Can anyone identify this small grasshopper with red legs and wings. I thinks it's a Myrmeliotettix sp. possibly M. maculata (which is quite variable). They sang loudly and vigorously after performing short flights showing off the red wings.

12.7.2010 Slovenian mountain valley c 1000m
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here's the pic
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here's another pic
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Hi
Is it possible Gomphocerippus rufus??

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Thanks Sara, but I think the antennae do not have clubbed tips like Gomphocerippus does. I think Mymeliotettix also has more clubbed anetnnae than my insect, so I'm really not sure what it could be. I'm now thinking it is maybe a Chorthippus sp. as the antennae, wings, thorax looks right, but I can't find any perfect matches in terms of colouration. I don't really know grasshoppers well at all and the colour variations within a species seem huge and I don't know which characters are really stable to look for.
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One of my friends is working on Grasshoppers, I'll ask her and will tell you result!
of course, I should see her on Sunday! Smile
But today, I asked her about some characters of identification of genus grasshoppers, She told about size of distance of antenna articulate and amount of forehead convexity, form of wings, color of hind tibia and etc.
I'm sorry for my bad English Sad
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OK many thanks, Sara. I hope your friend can help. I understood your English with no problem. What is your first language? I tried to use a French insect website, but my French was not good enough to understand how to post images, so I gave up! It is very hard to communicate technical details in a second language for sure!
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Posted on 28-01-2011 21:26
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Hi Nick
If you have Bing Translator etc.. copy and paste the URL of the French Website into Bing and then click on Translate...it will then be in English...or in any language you choose Cool

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Thanks Roger, good idea, though I'm not sure if Bing would work on my MAC. I do use Google translate sometimes and THINK a combo of that and my schoolboy french worked out the website in question (www.insecte.org) required me to upload images from a public website and that won't work from my laptop! I use www.hymis.de a lot for Hymenoptera images and though it's a German site, English is the accepted language, but that doesn't work in France!
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Posted on 30-01-2011 20:17
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I'm tending towards Chorthippus brunneus now having seen how variable this can be in colouration and it seems to have a hairy chest (ventral side of thorax) and black triangles not extending to the edge of the pronotum, but there are a lot of Chorthippus species recorded for Slovenia and other may fit these deacriptions uaed to ID the species in the UK, so any expert help would be welcomed!
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