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 Pallopterid fly?
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| Sandy |
Posted on 29-09-2010 15:00
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Member Location: South-east Scotland Posts: 132 Joined: 27.07.07 |
Can anyone help me identify this fly. It was photographed wandering around on a willow log. Thanks in advance, Sandy Sandy attached the following image:  [50.39Kb] Edited by Sandy on 29-09-2010 15:16 |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-09-2010 15:08
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Palloptera ustulata
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Sandy |
Posted on 29-09-2010 15:10
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Member Location: South-east Scotland Posts: 132 Joined: 27.07.07 |
Dank u wel Ruud  |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-09-2010 15:13
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Geen enkele dank
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 29-09-2010 18:34
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2136 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Be careful! Palloptera anderssoni could also be an option.
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-09-2010 18:48
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
This species has been described from Scotland, isn't it? Do you have a description of this species. How can we differentiate the two. I have quite some ustulata from Hungary. I would like to see whether there are no anderssoni among them ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 29-09-2010 22:02
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2136 Joined: 24.07.04 |
If you have male specimens you should study the genitalia to make sure if you're dealing with P. ustulata or P. anderssoni. If I remember correctly in the original description it is said you can recognize P. anderssoni by the lack of spot at the tip of the wing. However later it turned out that this can be present in P. anderssoni.
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| Sandy |
Posted on 30-09-2010 06:28
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Member Location: South-east Scotland Posts: 132 Joined: 27.07.07 |
Very interesting guys! So it's definitely Palloptera, might be ustulata, with the possibility of being anderssoni. Thanks |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 30-09-2010 07:10
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Member Location: Zoelmond, the Netherlands Posts: 1984 Joined: 01.11.06 |
I guess so. I would like to have the description of anderssoni. P. ustulata is rather common in the Netherlands and in Hungary. I would like to check whether among the specimens in my own collection there is no hidden anderssoni. I hope so 
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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