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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 23-08-2006 20:14
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9337 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Moscow region, 23 aug, 4-5mm. Female of Phasia obesa? Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [109.55Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 23-08-2006 22:01
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7234 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I'd say so, but you know what my record on Tachinidae is like! 
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 23-08-2006 22:26
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9337 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Late summer is good time for bad Tachinist, grace to somehow recognisable subfamily Phasiinae!
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-08-2006 22:28
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well, I see only 1 row of bristles on the parafrontalia and the genitalia suggest pusilla, so my guess would be pusilla Theo |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 23-08-2006 22:35
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9337 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Theo, halteres are yellow!
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 23-08-2006 22:49
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7234 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Theo - I thought that the ovipositor in pusilla curved downwards - have I got it wrong? 
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 23-08-2006 22:56
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9337 Joined: 24.05.05 |
parafrontalia & genitalia
Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [55.25Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 23-08-2006 23:06
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I'd go with P.obesa (female) - yellow hairs on the gena & yellow haltares |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 24-08-2006 20:12
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Maybe the first picture fooled me ? The shape of the tip of the ovipositor is not like obesa, there is a downwards oriented 'pin'-thing. Or is this something behind the ovipositor ? The halteres seem to be yellow, though very out of focus, I'n not sure. The genitalia resemble most Ph. pandellei. However, I am not going to give such an extreme ID on a photo, not matter how good the effort, Nikita. So, let's wait for the specimen. Theo Zeegers |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-08-2006 20:43
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9337 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Theo. OK, you'll get speciment mid-september. I have to say that this time I'm 100% sure, that 1-st and 2-nd photo are of the very same fly. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 24-08-2006 20:52
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hi Nikita, I noticed this summer in Siberia that Russian have a good sense of humor! I only just noticed your left new picture. It is clearly not subgenus Hyalomyia, so all my contributions are wrong. Except for the part that I might have been misled on the genitalia in the first picture. So it should be obesa, chris was right all along! Still nice to have a look at the real material. Theo |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-08-2006 21:24
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9337 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Theo, your authority is so doubtless, that if once you tell that elephant is Tachinidae we all have to believe it! Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 24-08-2006 21:43
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I have said it before: keep checking ! thanks guys (and IDing Tachinidae remains one of the most dangerous professions on earth !) Theo |
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