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 This time Ichneumonidae?
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 19-08-2006 00:13
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3308 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Encouraged with the response to my recent thread with Hymenoptera pictures, I've decided to post these, too. August 12, 2006, Ozhigovo station. Size 4mm. Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image:  [190.88Kb] |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 19-08-2006 00:19
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3308 Joined: 17.10.05 |
There's also another picture, and I believe it's at least a close relative. October 17, 2005, Naro-Fominsk, among fallen leaves (a negative film scan, sorry for quality). The case is that this specific specimen was identified as a female of Aptesis (= Microcryptus) nigrocinctus Grav. (Ichneumonidae, Cryptinae (= Gelinae), Echthrini), hosts: larvae of Nematus (Tenthredinidae). Since I'm not quite sure I can fully rely on this ID source, could someone please confirm it? Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image:  [43.99Kb] |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-08-2006 10:13
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Well, it's certainly an ichneumonoid, but it's hard to say whether it is from the Braconidae or Ichneumonidae, because we can't see the wing venation. It is possible to put it through a key (like Goulet & Huber) that works on other features but it wouldn't be easy  |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 19-08-2006 12:26
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Certainly an Ichneumonid, I work a lot with Pitfall samples, and I encounter these beauties all the time. So Ichneumonidae (characteristic is also the connection between tergite 2 and 3, in braconidae it is almost always fused), subfamily Phygadeuontinae (=Gelinae), probably even genus Gelis! (not the same species as the one above) Greetings, Edited by Gerard Pennards on 19-08-2006 12:27 Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 21-08-2006 08:31
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3308 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Thanks Chris and Gerard. |
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| lweit |
Posted on 21-08-2006 21:31
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Member Location: France, Département de la Moselle Posts: 609 Joined: 23.12.05 |
Hello Aptesis belong to the tribe Echthrini or in Fauna Europae in tribe Hemigasterini ? In which tribe ? Thank you Louis |
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| proctoss |
Posted on 21-08-2006 22:00
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 191 Joined: 13.08.06 |
lweit wrote: Hello Aptesis belong to the tribe Echthrini or in Fauna Europae in tribe Hemigasterini ? In which tribe ? Thank you Louis Echthrini (=Aptesini, Hemigasterini) |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 22-08-2006 10:08
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3308 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Well, as far as I can understand, Aptesis is confirmed  ? |
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