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JariF
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Posted on 01-10-2009 20:43
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Hi,

I wonder what would be THE book for Tipulidae here in Finland. Is the old Lindner still enough or is there any new books with keys and genital pictures ?

Jari
 
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I've understood from our one and only Finnish Tipulidae/Limoniidae-specialist, that it means at least a day in the library beside a copying machine. The more recent literature is most likely scattered in many articles and revisions.

The literature as well as species lists seem to be generally sparser and a lot harder to collect in gnats than in flies.

But I would also feel slightly interested if there were recent European revisions in at least some of the Nematocera groups. At least there is a good Russian publication of Mycetophilidae (by Zaitsev) in the Helsinki museum.
 
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Thank's Kaj. I was a bit affraid I will have an answer like that Frown Maybe we should collect some kind of list of all the papers that are necessary. Or maybe I will just forget the whole thing Frown Let's see.

Jari
 
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For Ctenophorinae there is a recent key by Oosterbroek et al.

For NW European Tipulidae, Limoniidae and Pediciidae, Alan Stubbs has provisonal keys. I think he s still preparing a definitive version.

Oosterbroek and Stubbs allowed me to put a pdf of their keys online:

http://staff.scie...ubbs_keys/

http://staff.scie...l_2006.pdf

I'm afraid my OCR treatmentdistorted Oosterbroek et al.'s scan a bit..





 
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Excellent monograph of E.Savtchenko in the series "Fauna of Russia" Vol.2. It consists of 4 books.
Unfortunately it is in Russian and nomenclature a little outdated. However try to check it (I think I saw at least some of the volumes at Helsinki museum) there are at least male genitalia figures for every species (very useful in many cases Smile).
Alex
 
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Hello, I´d like to buy palaearctic keys for Tipulidae and Limoniidae, I´m thinking about Lindner:
Fortgeführt von: Theowald, Br. Bearbeitet von: Mannheims, B. 1980. V , 538 Seiten, 379 Abbildungen, 8 Tafeln, 24 Faltbeilagen, 26x19cm Band III / 5 Teil 1I´m not sure about when Limoniidae got apart from Tipulidae, does anyone know if it includes just Tipulidae or if is inclomplete? Thanks in advance, regards

* edited: It has just Tipulidae
Edited by paqui on 15-02-2010 19:19
 
JariF
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Thank You all of of You. I didn't notice these answers until now. Now I have something to start with and must find that Savtchenko book.

Jari
 
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JariF wrote:
Thank You all of of You. I didn't notice these answers until now. Now I have something to start with and must find that Savtchenko book.

Jari


You might want to check out this page then: -

http://herba.msu.ru/shipunov/school/sch-ru.htm

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Andrius
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To make things easier, the E.Savtchenko files at that library are here:

"Fauna of Russia" Vol.2 p. III - http://herba.msu....dae_3.djvu
"Fauna of Russia" Vol.2 p. IV - http://herba.msu....dae_4.djvu
"Fauna of Russia" Vol.2 p. V - http://herba.msu....dae_5.djvu

You will need a DjVu viewer to view the files and I could recommend a free one from http://www.camino....aspx?id=1
 
clovis
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Hi,
The links to "Fauna of Russia" are no longuer available, do you know where i could find them?

Thank
 
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send your e-mail adress to atylotus (ton.vanhaaren{at}grontmij.nl) and I can send you PDF or djvu in return of the three Savchenko books.
Edited by atylotus on 25-07-2011 16:14
 
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