Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Chloropidae, September 2oo8, Hungary
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| Xespok |
Posted on 15-11-2008 21:48
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
This is a poor image of a smallish fly. I think it is a Chloropid. Can someone confirm it and maybe suggest a genus?
Xespok attached the following image:  [129.75Kb] Edited by Xespok on 11-12-2008 11:02 Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Gordon |
Posted on 16-11-2008 13:50
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 Member Location: Lake Kerkini, Greece Posts: 1101 Joined: 02.01.08 |
Dear Xespok, I think the image is a bit too hazy for the experts to want to stick their necks out saying what it is or isn't, it is hard to see anything clearly. While it looks like it is without any long bristles this could be an illusion. Also Chloropidae is in the Acalyptrata, not the Brachycera so you are not attracting your target audience. Gordon |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 16-11-2008 14:18
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7346 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Strictly speaking, Xespok is correct, in that Brachycera is the suborder including the infraorder Acalyptrata, as well as the "larger Brachycera" (=Tabanoidea and Asiloidea). Any family that is not in the Nematocera is in the Brachycera. See http://www.dipter...page_id=17 And I think the fly could be a chloropid, Xespok, but I'm not sure why you want to know - you're not going to use the photo, are you? 
Edited by Tony Irwin on 16-11-2008 14:22 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 16-11-2008 14:26
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Thx for the suggestion, it is very nice that you give some input. Brachycera does include Acalyptrata. Actually Brachycera is everything els that is not Nematocera. Brachycera can be split into Ortorapha and Cyclorapha. Cyclorapha includes Aschiza and Schizophora. Schizophora in turn has Acalyptrata and Calyptrata. So you are right, Acalyptrata would be a better way to narrow down the group this fly belongs to. I could not decide between Spaheroceridae and Chloropidae. In fact I am pretty sure this is a Chloropid now. There are lots of Chioropid features visible on this image, even though it is too blurry for chaetotaxy. But maybe someone will sitck out his.her head and suggest a genus. Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 11-12-2008 10:57
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
My philosophy is to use a photo no matter how bad it is, until I can capture a better image of the same fly. This photo seems to show a type of Chloropid that I had not seen before. I have cc. 150 images showing dozens of Chloropid species, which I may post here sometimes later.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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