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 Greek Tachinid (?)
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 22-07-2008 19:16
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
On the Island of Zakynthos in Greece I caught these little (presumably) Tachinids, which have some strange features. I caught them running on rocks thinking they were Sepsids, because they held their wings just like them, however they did not move then as strongly as sepsids do. The size is about 3 to 4 mm. Under the microscope I discovered they were calyptratae flies, but which one? They have a few minute bristles on the meron, but hardly visible, and a swollen subscutellum so I think they could be Tachinids. Big round head and very big mouth opening, costal and subcostal cel are darkened. Could they be Tachinids, and so which one? Greetings, Gerard Gerard Pennards attached the following image:  [79.66Kb] Edited by Gerard Pennards on 22-07-2008 19:19 Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 22-07-2008 19:16
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 22-07-2008 19:17
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 22-07-2008 19:18
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 22-07-2008 19:18
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 22-07-2008 19:36
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Wow - interesting phasiines but I have never seen things like this so we must wait for Theo to see if he knows it.  |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 22-07-2008 20:57
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19050 Joined: 21.07.04 |
A Tachinid, possbily Catharosia or some very unusual Phasia (I don't think so), or just possibly Mesnilomyia. I need to see the animals, I don't recognize this species. So Gerard, please take them with you some time we meet. Theo |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 23-07-2008 08:57
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Deat Theo, we'll do! Btw are you interested in looking at a lot more tachinidae from all kind of (European) countries? They're from The Netherlands, France, Poland, Greece and others. If so, maybe we should get in contact for an appointment. Greetings Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-07-2008 20:23
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19050 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Right, I'm back from holiday, so maybe I'll jump on my bike to visit you ! Theo |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 25-07-2008 10:31
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Dear Theo, Please do so! I'm sure I have a lot of interesting tachinids and tabanids to look at! If you notify me a bit before the visit I can put together some stuff! greetings, Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-08-2008 17:17
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19050 Joined: 21.07.04 |
So, I've seen them in real 'life' and there was a reason I didn't recognize them: It is Plesina nigroscutellata, described only this year 30.iv by Cerretti & Tschorsnig from southern Europe. New for the 'mainland' of Greece, known from Crete. Terrific find ! Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 16-08-2008 17:44
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7703 Joined: 12.07.04 |
 wow ... new tachinids described in Europe ... very good  |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 17-08-2008 09:26
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19050 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It gets even better. One male was different, it proves to be the real P. claripennis. That species is new for Europe. Theo |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 17-08-2008 09:48
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Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Sh.....t If I had known these were so interesting, I could have collected several more, there were still several around playing on the rocks. As I said before, I thought they were sepsids, and probably common ones..... Greetings Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 17-08-2008 10:18
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
it is amazing discover new tachinid species in 2008 for Europe!!! |
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