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Baccha elongata (Syrphidae)
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rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 15-06-2008 21:16
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Hi, I'm not expert about diptera, but I collected one 8 mm fly whis is under my binocular: - It has a ptilinal suture - The apex of the abdomen turns inwards (ventrally) like a Conopidae - Lacks elongated snout - Anal cell next (but not reach) the wing border - False wing border like Sirphidae - Eye (laterally) occupying nearly all the head, not like Conopid. So is not Sirphidae, nor Conopidae, so I'm lost. ![]() Any idea of which family could it be woul be wellcomed. Thanks in advance, Rafa. Edited by rafael_carbonell on 21-04-2011 09:09 |
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Tony Irwin |
Posted on 15-06-2008 21:29
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Try Pipunculidae ![]() Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 15-06-2008 22:21
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Thanks, but wing venation don't looks as this family. I don't have camera connected to the binocular, but I will add a drawing later. |
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crex |
Posted on 15-06-2008 22:33
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You'd better tell where you found the fly as well ... |
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rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 16-06-2008 21:06
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Well, the fly was catched in my kitchen, but I live in the countryside. 11 may 2008, the lenght of the wing about 7 mm; the lenght of the body about 10 mm. Here I add a bad picture (ventral habitus, one wing reversed) and a drawing of the right wing... just to know family... and learn. Thanks in advance. rafael_carbonell attached the following image: ![]() [15.11Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 16-06-2008 21:09 |
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 16-06-2008 21:11
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It looks like Baccha elongata, Syrphidae.
Stephane. |
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rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 16-06-2008 21:16
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![]() Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 687 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Sorry I could'nt put the 2n image, now... So many thanks if it is Bacca elongata!
rafael_carbonell attached the following image: ![]() [23.33Kb] |
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rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 16-06-2008 21:26
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Great! Could be that animal. But then Chinery's key guide of insects is wrong? I saw a ptilininian suture! Or may be I'm wrong? And also the apex of the abdomen was turned ventrally, like conopids. |
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 16-06-2008 21:33
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With that wing (nice drawing) it is Syrphidae without doubt, and with this figure it's Baccha without doubt. Greetings. Stephane. |
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crex |
Posted on 18-06-2008 09:01
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rafael_carbonell wrote: Well, the fly was catched in my kitchen ... LOL |
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rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 24-06-2008 14:32
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![]() Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 687 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Sorry, my head was thinking about the flies: Can Grau, Beuda, Girona, Spain, UTM 31T DG7477, 400 m, 11 may 2008. ![]() |
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