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Tachinidae - Gymnochaeta sp.
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Hi


* locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL
* date - 2008.03.29
* size - 10 mm (big fly)
* habitat - woodland, near river
* substrate - on Pinus bark sunbathing


Today I saw about 5 Gymnochaeta cf. viridis. The first time I saw Gymnochaeta

Do you agree that the next photos show us the G. viridis? Smile
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Yes, correct, only Gymnochaeta on the Iberian peninsula


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I saw that it is used many times the synonym (?) Gymnocheta and not the correct (?) Gymnochaeta.

*http://bugguide.n...27/bgimage

*Gymnocheta Robineau-Desvoidy, 1830
Gymnochaeta ; (missp.?)
Gymnocheta (Linnaemyini) ; [FiDip] IN
ftp://ftp.funet.f...index.html
tells Gymnichaeta could be a misspelling.. So I'm not sure now. Can you clarify this, please, Theo?

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Let me repeat: I do correct evident misspellings, even if this might not be allowed by the taxonomic police.
Gymnocheta simply gives me a headache and is therefore bad for my health. But anyone how persists in writing Gymnocheta: be my guest.
I write Gymnochaeta, like the late Benno Herting did.


Theo


 
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Thanks Theo.
You confirmed my idea about the correct name. Smile

There are some errors even in the untrusty faunaeur like those wrote by Rondani. awkward
 
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Hello,
jorgemotalmeida wrote:There are some errors even in the untrusty faunaeur like those wrote by Rondani. awkward


You mean Roondany, the man who made spelling errors faster than he wrote ?

By the way, St?phane (Grapelli), not the dipterist we like, when he was in the States, recorded several disks under the name Grapelly because he disliked to be named grapelai.
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yep, that guy: "Roondany" Pfft that has many errors.
Authors, like Rondani, in particular, had a very bad spelling of Greek and Latin. For example: he spelled Italian, writing the letter e instead of ae (like Gymnocheta BUT THE CORRECT IS really Gymnochaeta as Theo confirmed) and mya instead of myia (example: Rhynchomya - that appears in the faunaeur BUT THE CORRECT is Rhynchomyia).
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For those who don't know who is Rondani (really R?ndani) I'm referring to this one: http://en.wikiped...C3%B3ndani
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Hello,

jorgemotalmeida wrote:
Rondani, in particular, had a very bad spelling of Greek and Latin. For example: he spelled Italian, writing the letter e instead of ae


When the simplification of the italian orthography happened (which is not a bad thing per se), it was rather difficult to keep together the ethymology and the orthography.

I hope I made less than the average number of errors in my sentence.
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