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Tachinidae -> Carcelia gnava
Marion Friedrich
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Posted on 29-09-2025 20:19
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Hi,
Is it possible to identify these flies that have eaten a caterpillar of Calliteara pudibunda? 2 of the 4 former inhabitants of the caterpillar emerged today or yesterday from their pupae. I found the young caterpillar in a forest in Germany, Saxony on 27.07.25.
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https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=116421

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Hello,
I need to correct myself. The caterpillar was eaten by 5 flies. Another pupa had hidden in the webbing of Calliteara pudibunda. In total, 4 flies emerged from the 5 pupae, one of which had problems emerging and could not unfold its wings. This one looks different from the other three. Is it a female or another species? Is an identification possible? If necessary, I can take more pictures.

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Hi Marion

Clearly a Carcelia, and host suggests strongly C. gnava, also supported by your photo's. This species is hardly ever seen in the field, typically a 'reared' species.


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Hi Theo,
thank you very much for ID of Carcelia gnava.

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