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 female Tabanus bovinus? (4 pics)
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| Rupert Huber |
Posted on 20-06-2025 07:48
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 Member Location: Germany / South-East Bavaria Posts: 724 Joined: 19.07.07 |
Hi everyone! This one is much more difficult than the male from last weekend (nearly same place). Antennae colour and shape are not like making me sure, but seem to look a bit more like Tabanus bovinus than T. sudeticus. "At least first segments without pale lateral margin" ventrally for T. sudeticus (Zeegers/Schulten) let me think it's T. bovinus. 70% sure. Am I right with that? Size 23 mm 19.6.2025, Germany, Upper Bavaria, Kohlstatt near Bergen, northern slope of Mt. Hochfelln, about 850 m a.s.l., coordinates 47.77474,12.55613 Rupert Huber attached the following image:  [170.45Kb] Best greetings Rupert |
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| Rupert Huber |
Posted on 20-06-2025 07:49
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Member Location: Germany / South-East Bavaria Posts: 724 Joined: 19.07.07 |
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| Rupert Huber |
Posted on 20-06-2025 07:49
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Member Location: Germany / South-East Bavaria Posts: 724 Joined: 19.07.07 |
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| Rupert Huber |
Posted on 20-06-2025 07:49
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Member Location: Germany / South-East Bavaria Posts: 724 Joined: 19.07.07 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 20-06-2025 08:20
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3952 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hi Rupert, yes - I think you are right with Tabanus bovinus: the ventral view shows the dark central stripe and laterally pale sternites.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Rupert Huber |
Posted on 20-06-2025 08:33
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Member Location: Germany / South-East Bavaria Posts: 724 Joined: 19.07.07 |
Thanks Eric! Now I know why it has to be caught for correct ID - no catch, no belly view. :-) Best greetings Rupert |
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| libor |
Posted on 20-06-2025 12:34
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1283 Joined: 30.05.09 |
Big dorsal hook on 3rd antennal segment, largely orange-brown base of 3rd segment. I vote T. sudeticus var. perplexus. Libor |
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| Rupert Huber |
Posted on 20-06-2025 16:11
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Member Location: Germany / South-East Bavaria Posts: 724 Joined: 19.07.07 |
Hi Libor! Thanks for your opinion! The more I look at it, the more I think it's totally as you write. Also the ventral black band fits very good to the description in the book. Best greetings Rupert |
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| eklans |
Posted on 20-06-2025 16:44
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3952 Joined: 11.11.18 |
I'm still perplexed and not fully convinced... 
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Rupert Huber |
Posted on 20-06-2025 17:12
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Member Location: Germany / South-East Bavaria Posts: 724 Joined: 19.07.07 |
I hope the author of "the book" is going to tell us.
Best greetings Rupert |
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