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serenense7
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Posted on 27-10-2024 11:45
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Luc Bettinelli : France : Arc-et-Senans : 25610 : 20/10/2024
Altitude : 236 m - Taille : 8 mm ?????
Réf. : 350575


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Luc Bettinelli : France : Arc-et-Senans : 25610 : 20/10/2024
Altitude : 236 m - Taille : 8 mm ?????
Réf. : 350580


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Luc Bettinelli : France : Arc-et-Senans : 25610 : 20/10/2024
Altitude : 236 m - Taille : 8 mm ?????
Réf. : 350673

Hello, this male of Calliphoridae was not photographed from a very simple angle for determination, sorry.

If the general appearance and what we see of the curvature of M1 are reminiscent of a simple Calliphora, the colors of the "beard" and the spiracle do not seem to correspond (we should see orange...). What do you think?

Thank you for yours answers

Luc
 
eklans
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Posted on 28-10-2024 11:38
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Hello Luc, as far as I can see it could be a male Bellardia sp. or Onesia sp.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
Zeegers
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Yes, looks like an Onesia, doesn't it ?

Theo
Edited by Zeegers on 28-10-2024 13:38
 
eklans
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Indeed, it does - I just wasn't sure about the 0+3 ia-bristles.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
serenense7
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Posted on 29-10-2024 10:27
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Thank you for your answers. I have the impression that there are 1 + 2 ai, which I tried to render here by changing the contrast of the photo and marking the bristles that I imagine are concerned in red.

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Luc Bettinelli : France : Arc-et-Senans : 25610 : 20/10/2024
Altitude : 236 m - Taille : 8 mm ?????
Réf. : 350790

On the insect.org forum, a proposal was made
"Bellardia viarum male
1. femur 2 without a preapical seta. (Calliphora a is present)
2. 1+2 ia (Onesia 0+3)
2. discal setae on t4 visible in photo 2."
Edited by serenense7 on 29-10-2024 20:06
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 30-10-2024 19:08
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Third antennal segment seems simply too long for Onesia. I find it very difficult to assess the humber of IA, in any case prae IAmis unstablemin Onesia.
Theo
 
serenense7
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Posted on 30-10-2024 23:08
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Thank you, we are making progress by formally eliminating Onesia.
For the number of AI, is it more complicated than what I pointed out in red? Maybe on the number of AI before the suture? Does Bellardia viarum seem like a good hypothesis to you?
 
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Well, between your first two red dots, there seems / might show a broken off bristle, which would be the first post IA out of 3 .....

So, I havent ruled out anything
Edited by Zeegers on 01-11-2024 09:20
 
serenense7
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Posted on 01-11-2024 18:48
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I see, thank you!
And are there other possible genus that would have a 1+3 AI formula?
Edited by serenense7 on 02-11-2024 10:32
 
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