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Marion Friedrich
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Posted on 28-07-2024 21:05
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Hi,
is it possible to determine the wasp more precisely on the basis of the images and the information about the host and to assign it to a subfamily?
On June 20th I found a caterpillar from the family Gelechiidae. The genus was determined in the Lepiforum as Helcystogramma, most probably H. lutatella or rufescens. The caterpillar has retreated into a rolled up leaf and pupated.
https://arthropodafotos.de/dbsp.php?lang=deu&sc=1&ta=t_45_lep_0_gel&sci=Helcystogramma&scisp=sp.
On July 9th the 6 mm long wasp shown here hatched from the pupa.

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Hi Marion, what is the length of your wasp? I think it could be a male of Pimplininae?
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
Marion Friedrich
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Hi Eric, thank you for answer. The length of the wasp from the head to the tip of the abdomen was 6 mm. It hatched from a 7 mm long pupa.
Do you mean Pimplinae?

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Sorry - yes, I meant Pimplinae, but I'm not sure, yet!
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Marion Friedrich
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Posted on 01-08-2024 10:27
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Thank you very much. It seems to be very complicated, because there are also a lot of small subfamilies.
I found a key to the subfamilies of North and Central American Ichneumonidae
http://www.amentinst.org/Subfamily_Key.php

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HDumas
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Posted on 28-10-2024 20:12
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What about a Metopiinae rather than a Pimplinae?
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Posted on 29-10-2024 16:56
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Metopiinae is a very good idea, thank you!
Looks like Exochus sp. or Hypserica sp..
Edited by eklans on 29-10-2024 16:57
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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