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 Allantus cinctus? --> Allantus cf. cinctus
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 31-05-2024 13:31
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 868 Joined: 25.04.14 |
we found this 8-10mm wesp in Germany, Northrhine-Westfalia, Herten, Halde Hoheward, altitude 100m, 1. 5. 2024 greetings Angelika/Reimund Reimund Ley attached the following image:  [62.79Kb] Edited by Reimund Ley on 04-09-2024 19:44 |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 31-05-2024 13:31
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 868 Joined: 25.04.14 |
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Reimund Ley attached the following image:  [60.84Kb] |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 02-09-2024 13:00
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 868 Joined: 25.04.14 |
any ideas, please |
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| eklans |
Posted on 03-09-2024 17:29
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3689 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Your idea is good, but the final evidence for the female Allantus cinctus is missing: the white band (cinctus) on the fifth tergite...
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 03-09-2024 19:41
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 868 Joined: 25.04.14 |
Hello Eric, thanks for your answer, the best we can do is Allantus sp.? Is this your idea too? Greetings Angelika/Reimund |
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| eklans |
Posted on 04-09-2024 12:08
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3689 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hello Angelika/Reimund, I've compared your wasp with others on rosa and it's very likely, that yours is a female Allantus cinctus - I would store it with a small question mark. Maybe you see the white girdle if you look at the original photo. It could be a red girdle: A. rufocinctus.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 04-09-2024 13:33
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 868 Joined: 25.04.14 |
Hello Eric, we made a close up and try to see that band and marked it with an arrow, if we are correct you mean this? greetings Angelika(Reimund Reimund Ley attached the following image:  [165.29Kb] |
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| eklans |
Posted on 04-09-2024 17:54
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 3689 Joined: 11.11.18 |
No, that's near the scutellum. I enclose images of a female on Rosa canina with arrows pointing to the white girdle on tergit 5 (+ male & larva). eklans attached the following image:  [83.21Kb] Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Reimund Ley |
Posted on 04-09-2024 19:44
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Member Location: Deutschland, Recklinghausen Posts: 868 Joined: 25.04.14 |
Hello Eric, thanks again for your help. We thaught is is ok to call this wesp Allantus cf. cinctus. with our fotos we could not get a 100% ID. Greetings Angelika/Reimund |
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