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 Black Amegilla bee from Canary Islands
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| Isidro |
Posted on 15-02-2008 09:52
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2101 Joined: 26.04.07 |
20th January 2008. Puerto del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands. Habitat: open dry lands with volcanic stones, dominated by Launaea arborescens and Heliotropium europaeum. Size: the same than the continental Amegilla quadrifasciata, about 10 mm (variable in size). Common in the zone. Nests in small holes in the soil, between the plants and rocks.   What species can be? Thanks. Edited by Isidro on 15-02-2008 19:30 |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 15-02-2008 12:54
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
For me, its Bombus canariensis. Regards, Christian |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 15-02-2008 19:32
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2101 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Bombus? But it was small as and Amegilla, and the shape is more likely Amegilla more than Bombus, and the behaviour and the wing sound are identical to Amegilla... But well, if you are sure... i will put this name. Thanks! |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 16-02-2008 08:51
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Sorry, I was wrong. From the last photo it is clearly an Anthophora or Amegilla (both genera are quite similar). I am not sure about the species. Anthophora alluaudi looks similar from color pattern, but I know only specimens from Gran Canaria and Tenerife, and in Fuerteventura occurs annother subspeces, and there is also Amegilla candens from Fu and La only, which I don't know. Regards, Christian |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 16-02-2008 09:30
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2101 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks Christian. It's a pity that the genus was doubty. But I thinks than Anthophora have the medium legs with very typical hairs, and this one is more probably Amegilla than Anthophora... |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 16-02-2008 12:05
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
The special medium legs is a male character only, and I am not sure about the sex in the photo. Amegilla normally are light species with marked tergal bands. But I am not so familar with mediterranean species of both genera (nobody is working seriously with the genus for the moment, as far as I know), so I will not speculate about it. As I wrote, Anthophora alluaudi in my collection looks very similar to your species and occurs commenly on Fuerteventura. Regards, Christian |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 16-02-2008 13:49
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
The broad and thin head makes me think of Anthophoridae too! I asked Rasmont, I wait!
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| Isidro |
Posted on 17-02-2008 10:28
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2101 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks, then I will put Anthophora alluaudi -with doubts-. |
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| Adrien |
Posted on 17-02-2008 12:11
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 Member Location: France Posts: 19 Joined: 16.02.08 |
the difference between Anthophora and Amegilla is that Anthophora get Arolium and Amegila do not. Here, i do not see ? i'm waiting for P. Rasmont answer Edited by Adrien on 17-02-2008 17:47 |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 25-02-2008 16:21
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Rasmont says Anthophora alluaudi possible!
cthirion |
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| Adrien |
Posted on 25-02-2008 19:24
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Member Location: France Posts: 19 Joined: 16.02.08 |
thanks Camille (and Pierre  ) |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 25-02-2008 22:54
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2101 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks again |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 28-02-2008 19:04
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2101 Joined: 26.04.07 |
I've found a very beautiful page about Canary Islands hymenoptera. There is an image of Anthophora alluaudi, I can't enlarge the images but I don't see it identical to my bee. It's possible that can be, better, Amegilla candens? http://www.hymis.info/fotos/authors/authorpictures.php?userID=104 |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 29-02-2008 09:40
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Best you say Anthophora spec. I don't know the species from there very well, exccept alluaud, what I have in my collection, and what is the most common Anthophora species on all Canary Islands. I am also not sure if the other specimen on hymis (which was also identified by me) and your specimens is the same (but I think so, probably they belong to different sexes). On the other hand is Pierre Rasmont one of the few people working Anthophora, and he confirmed it more or less. There are two other Anthophora species described from Lanzarote in 1983, but they are surely excluded. Regards, Christian |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 29-02-2008 17:53
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2101 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Well, in that case, back to Anthophora alluaudi (probably). Thanks again!! |
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