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 Tachinidae - Nemorilla cf. floralis
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 17-01-2024 20:45
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I was hoping I had kept this one, but I couldn't find it. Tried to key it from the pictures, but I don't see enough detail. First impression was Nemorilla, but it could be something else. Southeast Norway 18 July 2023.
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 17-01-2024 20:46
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-01-2024 11:53
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Second impression is ā¦.. Nemorilla  female N. floralis Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 18-01-2024 19:26
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Thanks a lot! Could I ask you: 3rd antennal segment is 1.55X as long as the 2nd. (If I measure from photo no. 2) The 2nd antennal segment is yellowish and the frons is also quite wide - could it be F. maculosa? Morten |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-01-2024 20:05
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Females are very tricky, but abdominal pattern disagrees with maculosa, Iād say. Length of third antennal segment is sexual dimorph, as probably is yhe colouration. Are you sure you are citing female values ? Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 18-01-2024 20:46
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Member Location: Posts: 6261 Joined: 29.11.15 |
Thanks! You know this much better than me!. But yes - according to Tschorsnig key:Floralis: Females: frons 0.75 - 0.92x as wide as one eye; 3rd antennal segment 1.64 - 1.96x as long as the 2nd; 2nd antennal segment black to brown. Maculosa: Females: frons 0.90 - 1.06x as wide as one eye; 3rd antennal segment 1.23 - 1.71x as long as the 2nd; 2nd antennal segment yellow to brown. Morten |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 19-01-2024 10:05
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18787 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Colouration supports maculosa, but vertex says floralis and third antennal segment looks loger to me. When possible, I prefer structural features above colours, which have a tendency to be more variable. But, ID based on males is always to be preferred in Nemorilla ! Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 19-01-2024 12:08
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Member Location: Posts: 6261 Joined: 29.11.15 |
Thank you very much for the useful information! I'll find a male next time... Morten |
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