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Rhinophoridae? --> very likely fem. Stevenia atramentaria (now Calliphoridae)
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Posted on 30-07-2023 14:25
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Hi,

this fly took a rest on a leaf close to our garden hedge. My guess would be that it might belong to the Rhinophoridae family. Is that correct?

Leaf near a garden hedge in Germany, Southern Bavaria, Munich (-West), 30.07.2023, app. 6-8 mm

Greetings, Uli
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Posted on 30-07-2023 15:53
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Hi Uli, from what I see, it's rather likely a female Stevenia atramentaria, now Calliphoridae - Rhinophorinae.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Hi Eric,

thank you very much for the identification. I was not aware of the taxonomic change (though it seems like that was already valid in the 1960ies), but Stevenia would have been my favourite too.

Thanks and greetings, Uli
 
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Hello Eric,

This "new" classification seems not to be widely accepted yet. On Fauna Europaea for example Rhinophoridae is still shown as a separate family. And Pollenia is still mentioned as genus within the Calliphoridae. Not sure what classification should be followed at the moment.

Jan Willem van Zuijlen
 
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Hello Jan Willem and thank you for your thoughts about this "new" classification.
I'm afraid Fauna Europaea is not up-to-date in these cases, based on this articles:
1. Rhinophorinae
"Monophyletic blowflies revealed by phylogenomics" by Liping Yan et al incl. Thomas Pape (taxonomic specialist and group coordinator FE) from 2021

2. Polleniidae:
"Reclustering the cluster flies (Diptera: Oestroidea, Polleniidae)"
by Cerretti et al from 2019

Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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