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| Kahis |
Posted on 26-01-2008 18:25
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
I'd love to get a second opinion of the name of this female Haematopota tabanid. It was dried out from a 'wet' Malaise trap catch, so the fly isn't quite in perfect condition. Collecting data: Southwestern Finland, August-September 2007 (O. Autio & J. Salmela leg.). Kahis attached the following image:  [118.13Kb] Edited by Kahis on 26-01-2008 18:41 Kahis |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 26-01-2008 19:13
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2158 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hi Kahis, I have very little knowledge about Tabanidae, but I will give it a try, just to test myself  : Haemotopota grandis?Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 27-01-2008 11:25
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19004 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Nono, it's italica, no doubt whatsoever. First for Finland, Kahis, is it ? Congratulations. Theo |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 27-01-2008 12:24
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Zeegers wrote: Nono, it's italica, no doubt whatsoever. First for Finland, Kahis, is it ? Congratulations. Thanks. H. italica it is. Kinda first for Finland too. This species was once reported from Finland and formally added to the fauna of the country, but in 2003 we checked all purported specimens and found them wanting. So we deleted the species from the checklist. It is not a surprise that this species is present in Finland. The species is known from central Sweden and the Russian Leningrad district. Chv?la, Lyneborg & Moucha give the northern limit as 60deg. N lat. which is exactly where this fly was found
Edited by Kahis on 27-01-2008 12:25 Kahis |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 27-01-2008 13:59
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19004 Joined: 21.07.04 |
You already suspected italica, didn't you ? Theo |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 27-01-2008 15:08
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
No, I knew it was italica 
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 27-01-2008 16:02
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19004 Joined: 21.07.04 |
And with reason. Theo |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 27-01-2008 16:42
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2158 Joined: 24.07.04 |
So much for testing myself  .I just had a look at "The Horse Flies of Europe" again to check where I went wrong. I went wrong at the coupled with the "greyish sublateral spots on the tergites" (and indeed went totally wrong). After having a look at the picture of the frons of H. grandis, it doesn't look at all like the frons in the specimen of Kahis. I should be less sloppy next time. But anyway crongratulations Kahis! Edited by Jan Willem on 27-01-2008 16:51 Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 27-01-2008 17:27
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Kahis wrote: No, I knew it was italica  |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-02-2008 17:59
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19004 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Especially for Kahis Yesterday I relocated my Haematopota, and I happened to note that I have 3 italica's from central Estonia. I have been there only once, so apperently italica is not that rare in Estonia either. Theo |
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