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 Rhagio Pyrenees > Rhagio grandis Szilady, 1934
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| Luc Elshout |
Posted on 12-03-2023 13:19
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Member Location: Wageningen, The Netherlands Posts: 9 Joined: 06.07.20 |
Is this Rhagio tringarius? I know it from Northwest Europe but don't know spanish species. 2022-07-31 Queralbs (ES) Elevation ca. 2100m  
Edited by Luc Elshout on 12-03-2023 20:22 Yours sincerely, Luc Elshout Jong? Natuur? NJN Natuurlijk! www.njn.nl www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-03-2023 14:23
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18948 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hi Luc, Probably a very exciting species. Could you please make a pic if the wing ? Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-03-2023 14:24
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18948 Joined: 21.07.04 |
and a frontal of the head ? |
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| Luc Elshout |
Posted on 12-03-2023 14:50
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Member Location: Wageningen, The Netherlands Posts: 9 Joined: 06.07.20 |
Hello Theo, Thank you for your reaction. Yes, I have these pictures:  
Yours sincerely, Luc Elshout Jong? Natuur? NJN Natuurlijk! www.njn.nl www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-03-2023 19:51
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18948 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Thanks.. It is Rhagio grandis, a forgotten species or the eastern Pyrenees. The type is lost (Budapest, 1956). This specimen might serve as neotype (to be published), that is, if you are willing to donate it to Naturalis. Great find ! Theo |
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| Luc Elshout |
Posted on 12-03-2023 20:17
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Member Location: Wageningen, The Netherlands Posts: 9 Joined: 06.07.20 |
Wow! That's great! Thank you for the identification Theo. Good that I wanted to have it checked. Of course that is all right. I will see if I come by soon, otherwise I can give it with somebody or send it by post, but that is maybe a bit tricky. Yours sincerely, Luc Elshout Jong? Natuur? NJN Natuurlijk! www.njn.nl www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-03-2023 20:20
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18948 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Great, thank you. Maybe Saturday Burger’s Bush EISdag ? Otherwise, another time. let’s switch to PM to exchange email adreesses. Theo Theo |
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| libor |
Posted on 13-03-2023 11:36
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1283 Joined: 30.05.09 |
Theo, and Rhagio "tringarius" from Portugal is true tringarius? Libor |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 13-03-2023 12:17
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18948 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I guess so. Rh. grandis is, so far, restricted to eastern Pyrenees and one mountain in Asturias. Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 13-03-2023 12:52
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18948 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I just had a quick glance on biodiversidadvirtual portal and yes, most, if not all, “tringarius” from Spain are indeed just that .., tringarius. Theo |
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| libor |
Posted on 13-03-2023 16:10
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1283 Joined: 30.05.09 |
Thanks for your reply. I will keep my three Portugese tringarius under that name, Libor |
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