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Thricops genarum? Near dead mole, Almere, Netherlands
Paul Hoekstra
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Posted on 21-02-2023 22:59
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I caught this Muscidae near a dead mole. With Gregor I key it to a female Thricops genarum, which is not known from the Netherlands. Can anyone confirm if it is the genus Thricops? Unfortunately, both middle tibia have broken off. I could only find 1 leg and I am not sure what is the anterior and posterior side. So I don't know if the 2 bristles on the underside are anteroventral or posteriorventral bristles.

The radial node has hairs and there are hairs on the underside of the scutellum.

https://waarnemin...264034455/.
date: 2018-06-30
location: Almere - Hanny Schaftpark (FL), Netherlands

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Nikita Vikhrev
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1. If it is Thricops than it is genarum. It is Thricops if it has setae on inner posterior margin of hind coxa (can't confirm from your images).
2. T. genarum presents from Britain to Turkey, why not in the Netherlands?
3. Do you have Savage's revision of Thricops?
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Paul Hoekstra
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Thank you for your reply and the pdf of Savage's revision!

It has hairs on the posterior margin of the hind coxa, but I am not sure if it is the inner posterior side as the legs are twisted. Unfortunately, I lose a lot of resolution when taking pictures with my phone, but see these 2 extra photos of the hind coxa

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Nikita Vikhrev
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Sorry, I can't say.
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