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 shiny black fly with big red eyes (muscid) and another one (lonchaeid?)
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| Sundew |
Posted on 22-01-2008 00:11
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hi, This rather small fly I met several times (may be, not the same individual, but the same species, I suppose), and all my efforts to take good pictures gave more or less unsatisfying results. Nevertheless I show them here, as it might be a common species and well known to you. All pics are from the Island of Usedom in August. Regards, Sundew Sundew attached the following image:  [171.64Kb] Edited by Sundew on 22-01-2008 15:39 |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 22-01-2008 00:12
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Here are pics from another day. (The white lines are spider silk.)
Sundew attached the following image:  [163.7Kb] Edited by Sundew on 22-01-2008 00:13 |
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| Andre |
Posted on 22-01-2008 00:40
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Lonchaeidae... |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 22-01-2008 08:00
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Not Lonchaeidae but Muscidae.
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| Andre |
Posted on 22-01-2008 09:40
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| Xespok |
Posted on 22-01-2008 13:15
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Possibly a male Hydrotaea sp.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 22-01-2008 13:40
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Hydrotaea ignava ?
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-01-2008 15:10
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I also think it is H.ignava
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| Sundew |
Posted on 22-01-2008 15:37
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Wow - I wouldn't have expected that we came that close to even a species! You are all really great. Now, funnily, I have some more pictures of a black shiny fly with red eyes that were next in my sequence of photoshooting of that day. At a first glance I thought they showed the same fly, but then I saw it sat on another leaf, was smaller, had more distant eyes, and the wing venation seemed to be less complex. So I'd like to show you this fly, too - perhaps this is a lonchaeid to comfort Andre? Thanks for the first ID and in advance for the second, Sundew Sundew attached the following image:  [183.58Kb] |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 29-01-2008 21:54
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Really no more comments? Now, does the last pic series show a lonchaeid, and how can I discriminate between black shiny muscids (above) and lonchaeids? Sundew |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 30-01-2008 01:31
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Yes, I think the last pictures show a lonchaeid. The muscid has bigger, more bristly legs, and there is a well-marked thoracic suture. Also its wings are more widely spread. The lonchaeid has the appearance of a little old lady who doesn't want to cause any trouble. The Hydrotaea is full of confidence - ready for action. This is more obvious in the way they move. The lonchaeid will be rather slow and deliberate, the mucscid more jerky and "on edge". Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Andre |
Posted on 30-01-2008 14:26
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
So sweet of you to try to comfort me... that thought alone comforts me well  PS: did you know there is a Syrphid genus, called Psilota, which looks a lot like Lonchaidae? Try to shoot that one in april/may  |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 30-01-2008 21:34
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3916 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Many thanks, Tony - this is an excellent description! I should be able to tell the little things apart now. And Andre is happy again, so all ends well with this thread. Cordially, Sundew |
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