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Brachycera ID => Sarcophagidae: cf. Nyctia lugubris
ESant
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Posted on 26-08-2022 16:54
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 Hello,

I photographed this fly in Silvi Marina (TE), Italy, on June 21st 2022. I'm not sure of the family it might belong to. Could you help me to identify its genus or species from these photos?

Thank you in advance,
Emanuele
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 Nyctia halterata ; Sarcophagidae I think...
 
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 Nyctia halterata shouldn't have a petiole on R4+5 and is darker - I think it could be N. lugubris?
Edited by eklans on 27-08-2022 09:46
Greetings, Eric K
 
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 Thank you both very much!
 
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 An addendum: the Mediterranean halterata could have a small petiole, too, but the female's thorax should be black. And Fauna Europaea shows this fly only for Sicilia...
Greetings, Eric K
 
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 Nyctia is a bit of a mess, Verves described new species based on male genitalia which are solid …

but this is a female.

Length of petiole is very variable in halterata, but I agree this is pretty extreme ..

in any case, find the males !!


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 "Verves" read "Lehrer (2005)"

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