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 First fly 2008: Heleomyzidae?
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 04-01-2008 18:45
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14127 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! This afternoon at 2 ?C on foliage on the ground near forest (Ostwestfalen/Germany). If it was Tephrochlamys sp., it was rather large for that genus, about 8-9 mm. Somewhat larger picture: http://www.foto-u...mm_big.jpg Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [34Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 04-01-2008 18:47 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 04-01-2008 18:46
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14127 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Not visible very well on the pictures, but the abdomen was orange.
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [49.52Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| amalia_raluca |
Posted on 04-01-2008 19:11
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 590 Joined: 22.03.07 |
Tephrochlamys rufiventris? http://www.dipter...d_id=10602 Amalia |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 04-01-2008 19:35
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14127 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Amalia! amalia_raluca wrote: Tephrochlamys rufiventris? I had T. rufiventris here in November: http://www.dipter...ad_id=9823. But that was much smaller than the one today. This one was more the size of a Suillia. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| amalia_raluca |
Posted on 04-01-2008 19:42
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 590 Joined: 22.03.07 |
well then let wait for the specialists answers Amalia |
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| mwkozlowski |
Posted on 04-01-2008 21:01
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 Member Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 782 Joined: 17.10.06 |
compare, please with http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=10602 very general entomologist |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 04-01-2008 21:54
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14127 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! mwkozlowski wrote: compare, please with http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=10602 Thanks! But I'm afraid I can't decide, whether my fly has a long enough subcostal cell, too... Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 07-01-2008 07:37
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2158 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hi J?rgen, I think you are right about this not being Tephrochlamys. Just have a look at the bristles on the costa! That looks different in Tephrochlamys! But let's just wait what Andrzej has to say about this specimen! Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 07-01-2008 12:42
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2408 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Yes !, I fully agree with Jan opinion. There is a memeber of tribe Heleomyzini and probably a Gymnomus or Heleomyza species  .I'm not sure about the anterior orbital bristle (if shorter than the posterior one, so could be Gymnomus caesius species group !). Andrzej |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 07-01-2008 19:49
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14127 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Andrzej wrote: Yes !, I fully agree with Jan opinion. There is a memeber of tribe Heleomyzini and probably a Gymnomus or Heleomyza species .I'm not sure about the anterior orbital bristle (if shorter than the posterior one, so could be Gymnomus caesius species group !). Thanks, Jan and Andrzej! So really no Tephrochlamys and in any case a new genus for me .
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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