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 Ichneumon sp?
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-12-2007 18:41
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Hi, I know it is a long-shot but can anyone put a name to this ichneumonine, caught a few days ago in southern England?  My best guess was an Ichneumon sp. or Amblyteles sp. but it's just a guess.
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-12-2007 18:41
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
dorsal view...
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| Iolaire |
Posted on 21-12-2007 13:01
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 Member Location: Langedijk, Netherlands Posts: 192 Joined: 17.08.07 |
Hi Chris, The problem with Ichneumonidae is the endless list of lookalikes and variations, as well as the shortlist of specialists. I'm trying to make ends meet by selfstudying and comparing pictures on the internet with my own. It's a neverending story, I fear.  Looking at your pictures I don't think it's Amblyteles (only one species in Western Europe: A. armatorius, which has more yellow on legs and abdomen). I think it's one of the many Ichneumon species. But I can't rule out Diphyus or Dusona species. Anyway, "Ichneumonidae sp." is as far as I would go. Maybe "Ichneumon sp." but only because it's so very frustrating having to include 40 or more other species. 
Best regards, Iolaire |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 21-12-2007 13:28
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Ichneumonidae Ichneumoninae....wait until you see the continuation! One the few specialist !
Edited by cthirion on 22-12-2007 00:02 cthirion |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 21-12-2007 13:45
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Thanks anyway - I have the old keys to British Ichneumoninae so I might try them again this Christmas holidays At least you have confirmed that it isn't a cryptine or banchine |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 05-01-2008 23:54
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Valemberg thinks it is Limerodops subsericans Ichneumonidae Ichneumoninae Amblypygi!
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 05-01-2008 23:57
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
wow - thanks for the identification - I will pass that on to Reg Tipping, the collector |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 06-01-2008 00:01
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Can I use this photograph for my future Ichneumon gallery?
cthirion |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 06-01-2008 00:26
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
certainly ... it's my own photos and you are welcome If you want different angles just ask - I might be able to do it |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 08-01-2008 01:03
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Thanks Chris!
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 08-01-2008 13:46
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Camille, let us know where you will put that Ichneumon gallery. It would be nice to see a list of definitive characters for each photo.. (if it is possible). Merci beaucoup! |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 08-01-2008 16:46
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
On my site later, impossible to mention the characters! If I put only one part of description, that will induce in error! Certain entomologists act thus, I do not give a name, they are often mistaken when they announce a family because they choose only one small whole of characters!
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