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Muscidae ID? -> Thricops nigrifrons
runetk
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Posted on 18-11-2021 16:42
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Is it possible to ID this? [My ref: RTK2020-D243B]
Location: North-Norway - Harstad
Habitat: Near the sea. Size: 7.8mm - Date: 14.07.2020 - collected.
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PIC2
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female Thricops (nigrifrons/longipes)
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Thanks for the determination Nikita TumbsUp,
I checked the Key for Thricops and took some more photos of important sections.
1. Thorax = stripes (indistinct stripes lacking median stripe)
2. arista hair size = with of ant. seg.3
3. abdomen (not complete median stripe)
= T.longipes
Do you agree?

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Nikita Vikhrev
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Rune, to differ females is not an easy task.
I did my best here:
https://ia600502.us.archive.org/26/items/RevisionOfTheKeyCharactersForTheThricopsNigrifronsSpecies-group/788-G-3-layout.pdf
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Your ZooKey was enlightening reading, TumbsUp
I used the old key from "E. C. M. D'ASSIS" 1968
So I ended up with the reverse result because of the missprint in the key.
Female scutum in posterior view on my specimen shows (1a) what you describes as a T.nigrifrons.
(no median vitta)
The abdomen and arista characters are unreliable as you describe it. :-)
p 11:Female: Hind tibia t3 with only 2 ad seta (check.. se picture)
p 12: Female dusting on thorax ground color yellow with brown tint (check)

Your (T-nigrifrons species-group) female key:
1-2
2-T.nigrifrons
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I think so
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