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Ulidiidae? - Tanzania -> Platystomatidae: Neoepidesma vs. Coelocephala arcuata?
Jeroen K
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Can anyone identify this fly? I believe it belongs to Ulidiidae but I might be mistaken. Unfortunately, I managed to take only these two low-quality pictures before it flew away.

Location: Moshi (northeastern Tanzania)
Date: 24-05-2021

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Picture 2.
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Impossible? Or wrong family?
 
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Ulidiidae or Platystomatidae
 
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Thanks John, I hadn't considered Platystomatidae.
 
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Platystomatidae, no doubts.
I'll be back soon to this thread.
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Possibly, a Neoepidesmia sp.
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Thanks, Valery, I didn't expect any more than a genus from these photos. Smile
 
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Based on wing pattern plus body morphology, I think more likely: Coelocephala arcuata Bezzi, 1914. Neoepidesma tends to be more ‘ant-like’ in general form. If Coelocephala arcuata, then the vertex should be sunken between the compound eyes in frontal view.
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Thanks a lot, Andrew. Unfortunately, I did not get a frontal view.
 
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Compare with inaturalist observations from Gambia (https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/248409094) and Benin (https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/261137583).
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Ascend, with all ease, perpendicular planes,
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