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Polistes bischoffi?
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TiCor |
Posted on 26-11-2007 07:04
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Member Location: Lochristi, Belgium Posts: 71 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hello, I found this waspnest in Malta (Southern Europe). Someone on a Dutch forum suggested Polistes bischoffi, but he wasn't sure. Is this a P. bischoffi or should I keep it as Polistes sp.? ![]() ![]() Edited by TiCor on 28-11-2007 19:38 Regards, Tim www.ticor.be |
crex |
Posted on 26-11-2007 08:27
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![]() Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Compare with the photos on this Vespidae page ... |
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TiCor |
Posted on 26-11-2007 08:56
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Member Location: Lochristi, Belgium Posts: 71 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Tank you for the link Crex. Hmmm...difficult. Now I think it is P. dominulus, but still not sure ![]() Regards, Tim www.ticor.be |
Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 26-11-2007 10:31
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Most probable it is Polistes gallicus (the former foederatus). P. bischoffi is excluded, because it has dark antennae. What you can see, are all males. Regards, Christian P.S. May I use the photo for your web gallery? |
TiCor |
Posted on 26-11-2007 10:53
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Member Location: Lochristi, Belgium Posts: 71 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Thank you very much Christian! You can use the photo's for your gallery. If you want them without the frame, I can send them to you tonight. Regards, Tim Regards, Tim www.ticor.be |
cthirion |
Posted on 26-11-2007 12:19
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Polistes gallicus is synonym Polistes dominulus? Name at present dominulus? cthirion |
Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 26-11-2007 13:32
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
No, nomenclature is more problematic. There has been a big change in the 80th. Former P. gallicus is now P. dominulus Former P. foederatus is now P. gallicus Both are similar in color etc, but gallicus is more slender. It occurs only in the mediterranean area, whereas dominulus also reaches Central Europe. I am not really sure with my diagnosis, because dominulus is also possible, but some details on the head of the males are more typical for gallicus. Regards, Christian |
cthirion |
Posted on 26-11-2007 16:12
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Thanks Christian![]() cthirion |
Isidro |
Posted on 02-12-2007 17:08
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2076 Joined: 26.04.07 |
And name at present for the former P. dominulus is Polistes dominula ![]() |
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Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 02-12-2007 17:46
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Never heard Polistes dominula. P. dominulus is the correct spelling, as far as I know. Regards, Christian |
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