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Polistes bischoffi?
TiCor
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Posted on 26-11-2007 08:04
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Hello,

I found this waspnest in Malta (Southern Europe).
Someone on a Dutch forum suggested Polistes bischoffi, but he wasn't sure.

Is this a P. bischoffi or should I keep it as Polistes sp.?

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Edited by TiCor on 28-11-2007 20:38
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Posted on 26-11-2007 09:27
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Compare with the photos on this Vespidae page ...
 
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Posted on 26-11-2007 09:56
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Tank you for the link Crex.

Hmmm...difficult. Now I think it is P. dominulus, but still not sure Shock
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Christian Schmid-Egger
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Most probable it is Polistes gallicus (the former foederatus). P. bischoffi is excluded, because it has dark antennae. What you can see, are all males.

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Thank you very much Christian!

You can use the photo's for your gallery.
If you want them without the frame, I can send them to you tonight.

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Tim
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Polistes gallicus is synonym Polistes dominulus?

Name at present dominulus?
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Christian Schmid-Egger
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No, nomenclature is more problematic. There has been a big change in the 80th.

Former P. gallicus is now P. dominulus
Former P. foederatus is now P. gallicus

Both are similar in color etc, but gallicus is more slender. It occurs only in the mediterranean area, whereas dominulus also reaches Central Europe. I am not really sure with my diagnosis, because dominulus is also possible, but some details on the head of the males are more typical for gallicus.

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Thanks ChristianWink
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And name at present for the former P. dominulus is Polistes dominula Pfft
 
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Never heard Polistes dominula. P. dominulus is the correct spelling, as far as I know.

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